Interview by Shirley Kaneda
Shirley Kaneda: Both your
flat work and the work that are assemblages are spacial, yet hold illusion
in check; that is they tend to be more optical, where the images are seen
through a layer of frosted mylar that functions as a lens, creating a
blurred image of what lies behind it. The interplay of focus and distorted,
exterior and interior, surface and structure seem clearly to point to
the notion of concealing and then revealing what is all ready open to
view. This situation seemingly collapses or connects the forms, the phenomenal
and the psychological together? Is this something you are interested in
doing?
Ivelisse Jimenez: Yes, there is an insinuation of a congruence
between the actual and the mental that is not definitive. In having to
travel the space between the different aspects of the piece, the digestive
process is slowed down.
SK: Where do you get your
images from? Do they have any references to the outside world?
IJ: I take images form all sorts of different places,
from perspectives of what I see around me everyday, to memories of a shape
seen in an illustration. Eventually most of it is reduced to a limited
shared vocabulary of forms. The negative spaces in my drawings are a point
of departure to work with my variations of these shapes. I also use figurative
images occasionally as another element of disparity.
SK: Is this connected
to the fact that while you have two approaches to painting: one is traditional,
paint on canvas and the other is collage where you put bits of plastic,
tape and other colored material onto the surface? The latter is something
like a bridge to the assemblages/ constructed works. But is it also a
supplement to traditional painting in general? if so what do you see as
painting's deficiencies?
IJ: One of my interests with collage is to include in
the painting that which it is not. This old activity of cutting and pasting
to the painted surface serves my interest in acknowledging different forms
of perception and interpretation simultaneously. The use of these materials
as painting also adds informality, impermanence and an element of deception,
of discovering at close inspection, qualities that were not evident at
a distance. I believe one is able to achieve an openess in one’s
work, to the possibilities of intertextuality with the use of liquid material
alone. It is a matter of choice, I think the literalness of the material
adds to a physicality that is important in terms of the type of nuances
I want to include.
SK: With these two different
approaches to flat work, are you after a kind of synthesis or do you see
each as doing something the other can't? Is this what you are getting
at in the new diptych like works where there is a traditional canvas on
one side and an assemblage of equal size on the other?
IJ: Even when the two approaches are not incompatible
they are dissimilar units that can't be reduced to a whole. The experience
of movement here is more one of vibration. Both interpretations side by
side within equal amounts of space also neutralizes each other’s
strength opening the attention to the interval.
SK: In which case how
do you see them as functioning differently, other than physically from
the installation work?
IJ: The effect is similar (compatible) in both parts
as they indicate a third space that is not present frontally. In one case
it is the imaginary space of the canvas, in the other it is the actual
material (plastic) that produces the blurring. They converge and then
diverge as both parts require different decoding modes and play a different
tone (therefore the vibration). They both require a different reception
at different times. The factor of the equal size and the square shape
pushes towards a simultaneous absorption of both or being stopped by doubt.
SK: When you speak of
"tone" and "vibration", these are terms often used
in relation to music where autonomous sounds coalesce into a continuous
overall composition. This can also produce conflicts which brings me to
the question of the fact that there also seems to be an attempt to contain
conflict within your work where the collage elements seem to put a check
on the more gestural parts of your painting. The fluidity of brush strokes
seems not to be able to remain being emblematic of freedom. Do you see
your work as an attempt to reach a certain freedom by combining use of
different materials and formats. Is this a conscious decision and if so,
what does this freedom represent for you?
IJ: It is interesting to me how a statement said with
fluency and assertiveness resonate as truthful even before the information
is processed. The musical terms refer more to the action of talking and
what happens when reflection and revelation is taking place. My intention
is of escaping the fixed and allowing incidents inside the work to remain
elastic. This reaction towards stagnation is not confrontational, it manifests
itself in the play between distance and closeness around the elements
in order to [see them well].
SK: Does this relationship
between language and abstract imagery become an interplay within itself
that becomes a subtext which in turn allows for the individual and sometimes
conflicting parts to have an integrity and assertion of its own so that
nothing gets subsumed by the whole?
IJ: The experience of approximation is important in the
situations I present. Nothing speaks directly about language, but is in
play between perceiving parts and making sense of the whole that my interest
is established.
SK: Do you think that
this ability to shift back an forth both stylistically and in terms of
format to be something particular to your generation? Do you feel free
or constrained by history and what other artists do?
IJ: I believe that if there is more tolerance and interest
now to shifts in format, it is because the work is not judged upon by
the media necessarily, but the material becomes a vehicle to what the
work is trying to communicate. Style is chosen in terms of how viable
it is to produce the impression that works in terms of intention and concept.
There is a rediscovery of immediacy and an emphasis on the experience
of the actual piece. The process has been reversed and now painting is
taking from other media. While working within the same language of forms,
the nature of the work is different. For me choosing an old media like
painting emphasizes the deliberation with how perception and interpretation
are to be considered. There are many factors around painting and its dual
nature as object and a ground to be inscribed that are of interest in
terms of how this interaction is ordered. I feel constricted, but I guess
that constriction works in terms of the kind of questions I'm looking
at.
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